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SiberianHusky

SiberianHusky

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1. Remove reflections from the environment on cars. So trees, buildings, signs. Nobody needs them and your performance will thank you for it.
2. I would only make simple shock absorbers and not 4 per wheel. It would probably be better for the cars. I think the cars would be more stable then.
3. Normal setups would be an advantage. Even if I only adjust the height, everything else changes with it. Maybe that's how it is in real life, but depending on how high or low I make the car, I can no longer get the camber and toe to the maximum. I find that strange.
4. Revise the AI because it's way too fast. At 75 percent Nordschleife over 10 seconds. I'm not the fastest, but I'm not that slow either. No idea what the AI does at 100 percent.
5. Tire temperature needs to be revised. Winding tracks burn up any tire.
6. Maybe change the engine.
 
2. High and low speed damping have specific functions. Low speed damping controls how fast weight transfer occurs when braking, accelerating and cornering. High speed damping is about controlling contact between the tyre and road surface on dumpy surfaces.

4. AI if the AI are too fast at 75 then turn it down.. why are you fixated on 75?
 
It's not about 75 or 100 or 60. It's about the fact that almost none of the cars do what they're supposed to do. They're unstable and bounce around like a wild kangaroo possessed by rabies. Besides, before the last patch, I could easily drive at 100 percent. I don't have these kinds of problems with the cars in any other game. PC1 and 2, ACC, AC. Only here. I can't be the only one with these problems, because many others have stopped playing altogether. If the shock absorbers are so important, then I wonder why it's best for everyone to have the same pressure. Then the difference can't have any effect.
 
Sorry , but really don't feel that "bouncing like dum kangoroo" car behavior (xbox series x and pad) to the contrary, most of them are pretty well predictable thru braking/throttle managment ...Sure , some set up adjustement are needed to get the car how you want it to be , but once found, i don't feel any strange and dummy behavior ...if something wrong happen , it's most of the time my fault (agreed also that most of car behavior were broken at launch , no doubt about that)...i am not saying it's perfect (and again , would be usefull to define what "perfect" really means, as probably each of us has its own def 😉) ...but after all those updates in various fields , i would say that pmr is ...enjoyable ...ok still plenty of things to optimize , many to correct , to implement , but at least from an overall cars physic model point of view , it is (to me and specifically on console) one of the best i have ever played ...

Again that's my own perception , and its seems weird that the general feeling of a game could be so different from one player to another ???...may be something wrong somewhere in your detailled settings ?...

Hope you will succeed to have fun with pmr anyway 😉👍...
 
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Sorry , but really don't feel that "bouncing like dum kangoroo" car behavior (xbox series x and pad) to the contrary, most of them are pretty well predictable thru braking/throttle managment ...Sure , some set up adjustement are needed to get the car how you want it to be , but once found, i don't feel any strange and dummy behavior ...if something wrong happen , it's most of the time my fault (agreed also that most of car behavior were broken at launch , no doubt about that)...i am not saying it's perfect (and again , would be usefull to define what "perfect" really means, as probably each of us has its own def 😉) ...but after all those updates in various fields , i would say that pmr is ...enjoyable ...ok still plenty of things to optimize , many to correct , to implement , but at least from an overall cars physic model point of view , it is (to me and specifically on console) one of the best i have ever played ...

Again that's my own perception , and its seems weird that the general feeling of a game could be so different from one player to another ???...may be something wrong somewhere in your detailled settings ?...

Hope you will succeed to have fun with pmr anyway 😉👍...
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My thoughts as well.
I've never had a car handle like that in PMR, or any other racing game. The only time i have experienced a car bouncing about like that, was in GT7 when i made it happen on purpose, and forced the issue by changing my suspension settings to extremes to try and replicate something fun i did way back in GT5. All the cars i've used in PMR so far have been quite stable, and haven't displayed any characteristics of 'kangaroo bouncing'. I can't speak for those LMDH cars everyone seems to love, cause i've never used them.

@SiberianHusky, what cars are doing it? Can you post a screen of your suspension settings for the car where it's most noticable? Maybe we can help you out.

Personally, i'd prefer to play racing games that have proper fast and slow damper adjustments in the car setup screen. As opposed to games like GT7 that have a more simplified 'single' damper adjustment. Because as Mad Al pointed out, the fast and slow dampers do two different things. And it's nice to have control over one thing, without compromising something else.
 
I don't think any of us mean to come off as gaslighting you or downplaying your concerns here, but it seems many of us aren't experiencing what you are. I've not come across anything like what you're describing myself. Of course we don't all drive the same cars, either. Much like Mad Al and Womp83, I also prefer the deeper setup options here vs the simplified tuning in other games, although they could have done something to help walk people through it.

As well as your suspension what levels of downforce are you using, out of curiousity?
 
I've already found my solution. I drive with very hard springs, between 15 and 18. That works fine for me now. I relied on the setups from the so-called pros that you can download here. That was a big mistake. I also disabled the throttle assist, but this only makes driving more unstable due to the throttle problem.

If you're going to offer setups from super pros, they should at least work reasonably well. Besides, I took a look at them and virtually nothing had been changed, so I might as well just drive with the default settings.

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SiberianHusky said:
I've already found my solution. I drive with very hard springs, between 15 and 18. That works fine for me now. I relied on the setups from the so-called pros that you can download here. That was a big mistake. I also disabled the throttle assist, but this only makes driving more unstable due to the throttle problem.

If you're going to offer setups from super pros, they should at least work reasonably well. Besides, I took a look at them and virtually nothing had been changed, so I might as well just drive with the default settings.

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Do you have to be so rude, abrupt and condescending to absolutely everyone?

Many of the players on PMR use and like the setups in the Mod Hub, myself included.

Fair enough if you don't like them, but there is no reason to communicate in such an abrasive and toxic manner. At least the guys who provide free downloadable content contribute to the game and community.. unlike some.
 
Why is it condescending when I'm honest? The setups are pretty much the same as the default ones. The tires were changed and the springs were made slightly softer. That's it. The main thing is that you've provided something to download. That's my opinion, and I'm allowed to say it. You always say it's the best we've ever seen, don't you? Then you have to be able to handle criticism when it's not. But criticism has never been welcome. It was no different in PC1 and 2. Many players were banned for telling the truth. That's unprofessional.

We paid for it and we don't earn anything from it. You do. It's our free time that we spend here mainly in the forum to report bugs. We don't get anything out of it, but you do. It's normal to get annoyed at some point that things aren't getting any better. The update before the last one was the best, but you're changing it again. I feel like you often don't listen.

It went very well. There were a few glitches with the graphics and the AI, but that was it. I previously drove a 6:35 on the Nordschleife, but now I can only manage a 6:50. However, the AI easily achieves times of 6:30. Before complaining, I would first pick up a controller, drive myself, and compare. Use version prior to 1.6.0.1, drive, and compare it with this version. Then you may have an epiphany.

Here is a video where you can see how the AI drives. Later on, you can see a race at 50% power. The tires don't get hot when you drive in the morning or at night. And when they do get warm, they cool down quickly. During training, the mechanics stand around looking stupid with their brake signs in their hands. I reported this weeks ago and nothing has happened. There were no flashlights before, but now they're everywhere. All these things have gotten worse. Why is that? Because you don't test it and just throw it on the market. I'm not a guinea pig.

Something must have been changed in the engine or transmission. It can't be that hard tires are so much slower. I've lost almost 15 seconds since the last update. It's sad, because I really enjoyed the game before the update. It was the first time I had fun driving. It has so much potential and some things are better than other games, but unfortunately, the updates are not going in the right direction. And when something was good, you ruin everything with the next update.

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SiberianHusky said:
Why is it condescending when I'm honest? The setups are pretty much the same as the default ones. The tires were changed and the springs were made slightly softer. That's it. The main thing is that you've provided something to download. That's my opinion, and I'm allowed to say it. You always say it's the best we've ever seen, don't you? Then you have to be able to handle criticism when it's not. But criticism has never been welcome. It was no different in PC1 and 2. Many players were banned for telling the truth. That's unprofessional.

We paid for it and we don't earn anything from it. You do. It's our free time that we spend here mainly in the forum to report bugs. We don't get anything out of it, but you do. It's normal to get annoyed at some point that things aren't getting any better. The update before the last one was the best, but you're changing it again. I feel like you often don't listen.

It went very well. There were a few glitches with the graphics and the AI, but that was it. I previously drove a 6:35 on the Nordschleife, but now I can only manage a 6:50. However, the AI easily achieves times of 6:30. Before complaining, I would first pick up a controller, drive myself, and compare. Use version prior to 1.6.0.1, drive, and compare it with this version. Then you may have an epiphany.

Here is a video where you can see how the AI drives. Later on, you can see a race at 50% power. The tires don't get hot when you drive in the morning or at night. And when they do get warm, they cool down quickly. During training, the mechanics stand around looking stupid with their brake signs in their hands. I reported this weeks ago and nothing has happened. There were no flashlights before, but now they're everywhere. All these things have gotten worse. Why is that? Because you don't test it and just throw it on the market. I'm not a guinea pig.

Something must have been changed in the engine or transmission. It can't be that hard tires are so much slower. I've lost almost 15 seconds since the last update. It's sad, because I really enjoyed the game before the update. It was the first time I had fun driving. It has so much potential and some things are better than other games, but unfortunately, the updates are not going in the right direction. And when something was good, you ruin everything with the next update.

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Man, 6:35 Nordschleife for GT3 car is not realistic at all. The fact that you were able to do it clearly indicates that something was broken and now it more or less fixed
 
eekz said:
Man, 6:35 Nordschleife for GT3 car is not realistic at all. The fact that you were able to do it clearly indicates that something was broken and now it more or less fixed
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Oh, it's been repaired. Here's a picture of the repair. That was just training; better times are ahead in the race. I didn't know it had been repaired. My apologies.

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Oh, it's been repaired. Here's a picture of the repair. That was just training; better times are ahead in the race. I didn't know it had been repaired. My apologies.

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Obviously, AI is too fast here. Agree on that. But I was talking about player physics. 6:50 is still little fast but considering some other nuances that might not be in the game yet (like bottoming out physics) is ok
 
I'm not a pro, so I can't say how fast GT3 and 4 should be. If everything goes well, I can manage times of 6:48 at best. AI drives 6:28 or faster in races. But that only applies to first place. Those behind are a little slower, but still very fast. I know it's a known issue and will be fixed at some point. Spa is another such case. I didn't feel like testing other tracks. Even at 50 percent AI, it's already difficult. I also only drive with a controller.

I never go online because there are often only crazy people who can't stand losing. That's why I hope there will be an update soon.
 
Actually, checked Verstappen's Nurburgring 24h lap and ~6:30 is fastest you can get in GT3 (just check the video timing and add a couple of seconds to connect Nordschleife and exclude GP course). But I'm not sure which tire compound he used. Anyway, looks like a challenge to replicate in PMR :)
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He also cuts the curbs well. With the controller, it's really hard to drive over the curbs because the car is difficult to control. I don't want to follow others, I want to do my own thing. I just want to have some fun. That's all. I'm happy to drive 6:50 if the AI is driving similar times. Then I have no problem with it.
 
SiberianHusky said:
He also cuts the curbs well. With the controller, it's really hard to drive over the curbs because the car is difficult to control. I don't want to follow others, I want to do my own thing. I just want to have some fun. That's all. I'm happy to drive 6:50 if the AI is driving similar times. Then I have no problem with it.
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Tune down AI skill level to match your times?
 
Yeah, that's true. AI pace is really inconsistent. While at 100% on some track/cars combinations I can win, and on others can't keep up with AI.
Definitely some tuning needed.

But there are plenty of bugs in Career from big ones (placing you in the championship in a wrong car) to other minor ones. So, for me Career is unfortunately broken - immersion very quickly disturbed by some kind of bug or something unfinished. That's why I do just race weekends when playing vs AI and hope for a complete Career overhaul sometime in the future that would put it hopefully on PC2 level.
 
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